Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
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Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
En Grande-Bretagne la situation ressemble a celle de la France. Le meme dénie des Élites vivant dans leur bulles.
Au Londonistan, quartier-général de la propagation de l`islam radical en Europe - tout va bien - pour les radicaux...apres les attentats de Londres qui ont des dizaines de victimes innocentes voila que celui qui s`est explosé a Stockolm a été radicalisé en Grande-Bretagne. Comme le dit Mélanie Philipps plus de 30 diplomés universitaires musulmans en Grande-Bretagne ont été impliqué dans des attentats. Il y a 4 ans Mélanie avait écrit que un gouvernement incapable de nommer ses ennemis et de déterminer la nature de cet ennemi est vaincu d`avance. L`islamisation de la Grande-Bretagne avance a grand pas...
Denial is a river in LondonistanDaily Mail, 14 December 2010
Some four-and-a-half years ago, a book of mine was published that caused something of a sensation.
It was called Londonistan, and it was about the way in which — astoundingly — Britain had become the most important centre, outside the Islamic world itself, for the production and export of Islamic terrorism.
Worse yet, I wrote, even after the 9/11 attacks and the 7/7 London Tube and bus bombings, the British political, legal and security establishments were still refusing to get to grips with the threat posed to Britain by militant Muslims who wanted to conquer it for Islam.
For my pains, I was called ‘mad’ by the Guardian, ‘bonkers’, ‘alarmist’, ‘hysterical’ and, of course, ‘Islamophobic’.
Indeed, I had a hard time getting the book published at all. It was turned down by every mainstream London publisher because they regarded my views as dangerous extremism. One even remarked: ‘I’d rather take the poison ricin than publish this.’ Nice!
For a while it looked as if it would be published only in the U.S. — but a few weeks before publication in America, a tiny British publishing house bravely volunteered to publish it here.
Given the terrifying nature of what I wrote in that book, it really does give me no comfort to say this - but the fact is that, ever since it was published, a steady stream of revelations has proved that I was absolutely right.
This week, we learned that Taimour Abdulwahab Al-Abdaly, who blew himself up in a terrorist attack in Stockholm, was yet another radicalised British Muslim university graduate. He was but the latest in an unremitting procession of British Muslims who have committed terrorist attacks in other countries. And many have been educated to a high level in Britain.
Over the past decade, around 30 Muslim graduates or students at British universities have been involved in Islamic-inspired terrorism, including former University College London student Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who has been charged with trying to blow up a U.S. airliner with explosives hidden in his underpants.
As for Luton — where Abdulwahab lived and attended university — this has long been regarded as a hot-bed of Islamic extremism.
So why is it that, with the Security Service periodically issuing chilling warnings that it’s monitoring more than 2,000 dangerous Muslim fanatics and dozens of terrorist plots, Britain is still failing so dismally to curb its home-grown industry of Islamic terrorism and extremism?
As I pointed out in my book, most of the British establishment is in denial about what it is up against. Our leaders know there is a major threat of terrorism.
But they remain wilfully blind to the fact that the terrorists’ ultimate aim, the Islamisation of Britain and the West, is being pursued by Islamic groups that are not violent, as well as those that are.
Of course, millions of British Muslims shun violence or extremism. They want only to live peacefully and enjoy the benefits of Western democracy and human rights.
Moreover, since they and their children are themselves among the principal victims and targets of the Islamist fanatics, they beg the British Government to crack down on such extremism.
But here is the most astonishing thing I explored in my book. For the establishment is so heavily imbued by a deadly cocktail of political correctness, multiculturalism and ‘human rights’ law that, far from curbing Islamic extremism, it has actually fanned the flames.
Over the past decade and more, the judges have made it all but impossible to police Britain’s borders against undesirables or throw extremists out of the country.
Universities have shamefully refused to crack down on extremists on campus, even though countless Muslim students are being radicalised there by Islamist speakers — with no fewer than four university Islamic Society presidents having been involved in major acts of terrorism.
Idiotically, politicians cravenly attempting to defuse Islamic rage by appeasing the Muslim community have funded organisations that have turned out to be extreme.
Even more extraordinarily, to this day the Government is employing radical Islamists in Whitehall — as political advisers on curbing Islamic extremism.
The core reason for this supine approach is that the establishment refuses to acknowledge that Islamic terrorism is rooted in religious fanaticism — an extreme interpretation of the religion that dictates Muslims must impose Islamic law throughout the world.
While most British Muslims most certainly do not accept this interpretation, it is rooted in theology and history, and is supported by the major religious authorities in the Islamic world.
So truly moderate Muslims cannot make their voices heard. The extremists therefore have the whip hand. And the way they intend to achieve their ends is through a pincer movement comprising both terrorism and cultural infiltration to gain social, economic and political power.
The threat of violence makes it more likely they will succeed in infiltrating British institutions. And that in turn makes it ever harder to curb radicalisation. It also galvanises the extremists, who perceive correctly that the society they have in their sights has no stomach for the fight.
This is precisely what is happening in Britain. Because our political and security establishment has defined extremism as involving violence, it is blind to the steady process of Islamisation that is taking place.
Astonishingly, it is tolerating — and even encouraging — the relentless incursion of Islamic religious law. Yet this is inimical to British values - and not just because it denies the human rights of women, homosexuals or anyone who wants to renounce Islam.
Fundamentally, it does not recognise the superior authority of the law of the land, against which it therefore asserts itself.
But it is a fundamental principle of a democratic society that there must be only one law for all. And yet in Britain today, blind eyes are being turned to Sharia courts meting out not just family law judgments that oppress women, but even criminal sanctions, too.
In addition, there has been in this country an enormous growth of Islamic banking — despite the fact this serves as an umbrella for the financing of Islamic terrorism and is a vehicle for putting yet more pressure on British Muslims to subject themselves to Sharia law.
Almost every week, more examples surface of the way in which British culture is giving way to Islamic practices. As a recent BBC Panorama programme demonstrated, some Muslim schools are teaching their pupils to hate ‘unbelievers’ — all under the nose of Ofsted.
And a growing number of education authorities serve halal meat to all pupils — without even informing the public of this minority faith practice. London hosts three Muslim TV channels — all with ties to fanatical Islamic organisations or regimes.
In short, Britain is being steadily Islamiscised — and the establishment appears paralysed like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Four years ago in my book, I delivered a warning. A country that can’t even bring itself to name the nature of the enemy it faces will be defeated by that enemy.
The Stockholm bomber is but the latest export from Londonistan — and unless the Government gets up off its knees and changes its disastrous strategy, I very much fear he will not be the last.
Au Londonistan, quartier-général de la propagation de l`islam radical en Europe - tout va bien - pour les radicaux...apres les attentats de Londres qui ont des dizaines de victimes innocentes voila que celui qui s`est explosé a Stockolm a été radicalisé en Grande-Bretagne. Comme le dit Mélanie Philipps plus de 30 diplomés universitaires musulmans en Grande-Bretagne ont été impliqué dans des attentats. Il y a 4 ans Mélanie avait écrit que un gouvernement incapable de nommer ses ennemis et de déterminer la nature de cet ennemi est vaincu d`avance. L`islamisation de la Grande-Bretagne avance a grand pas...
Denial is a river in LondonistanDaily Mail, 14 December 2010
Some four-and-a-half years ago, a book of mine was published that caused something of a sensation.
It was called Londonistan, and it was about the way in which — astoundingly — Britain had become the most important centre, outside the Islamic world itself, for the production and export of Islamic terrorism.
Worse yet, I wrote, even after the 9/11 attacks and the 7/7 London Tube and bus bombings, the British political, legal and security establishments were still refusing to get to grips with the threat posed to Britain by militant Muslims who wanted to conquer it for Islam.
For my pains, I was called ‘mad’ by the Guardian, ‘bonkers’, ‘alarmist’, ‘hysterical’ and, of course, ‘Islamophobic’.
Indeed, I had a hard time getting the book published at all. It was turned down by every mainstream London publisher because they regarded my views as dangerous extremism. One even remarked: ‘I’d rather take the poison ricin than publish this.’ Nice!
For a while it looked as if it would be published only in the U.S. — but a few weeks before publication in America, a tiny British publishing house bravely volunteered to publish it here.
Given the terrifying nature of what I wrote in that book, it really does give me no comfort to say this - but the fact is that, ever since it was published, a steady stream of revelations has proved that I was absolutely right.
This week, we learned that Taimour Abdulwahab Al-Abdaly, who blew himself up in a terrorist attack in Stockholm, was yet another radicalised British Muslim university graduate. He was but the latest in an unremitting procession of British Muslims who have committed terrorist attacks in other countries. And many have been educated to a high level in Britain.
Over the past decade, around 30 Muslim graduates or students at British universities have been involved in Islamic-inspired terrorism, including former University College London student Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who has been charged with trying to blow up a U.S. airliner with explosives hidden in his underpants.
As for Luton — where Abdulwahab lived and attended university — this has long been regarded as a hot-bed of Islamic extremism.
So why is it that, with the Security Service periodically issuing chilling warnings that it’s monitoring more than 2,000 dangerous Muslim fanatics and dozens of terrorist plots, Britain is still failing so dismally to curb its home-grown industry of Islamic terrorism and extremism?
As I pointed out in my book, most of the British establishment is in denial about what it is up against. Our leaders know there is a major threat of terrorism.
But they remain wilfully blind to the fact that the terrorists’ ultimate aim, the Islamisation of Britain and the West, is being pursued by Islamic groups that are not violent, as well as those that are.
Of course, millions of British Muslims shun violence or extremism. They want only to live peacefully and enjoy the benefits of Western democracy and human rights.
Moreover, since they and their children are themselves among the principal victims and targets of the Islamist fanatics, they beg the British Government to crack down on such extremism.
But here is the most astonishing thing I explored in my book. For the establishment is so heavily imbued by a deadly cocktail of political correctness, multiculturalism and ‘human rights’ law that, far from curbing Islamic extremism, it has actually fanned the flames.
Over the past decade and more, the judges have made it all but impossible to police Britain’s borders against undesirables or throw extremists out of the country.
Universities have shamefully refused to crack down on extremists on campus, even though countless Muslim students are being radicalised there by Islamist speakers — with no fewer than four university Islamic Society presidents having been involved in major acts of terrorism.
Idiotically, politicians cravenly attempting to defuse Islamic rage by appeasing the Muslim community have funded organisations that have turned out to be extreme.
Even more extraordinarily, to this day the Government is employing radical Islamists in Whitehall — as political advisers on curbing Islamic extremism.
The core reason for this supine approach is that the establishment refuses to acknowledge that Islamic terrorism is rooted in religious fanaticism — an extreme interpretation of the religion that dictates Muslims must impose Islamic law throughout the world.
While most British Muslims most certainly do not accept this interpretation, it is rooted in theology and history, and is supported by the major religious authorities in the Islamic world.
So truly moderate Muslims cannot make their voices heard. The extremists therefore have the whip hand. And the way they intend to achieve their ends is through a pincer movement comprising both terrorism and cultural infiltration to gain social, economic and political power.
The threat of violence makes it more likely they will succeed in infiltrating British institutions. And that in turn makes it ever harder to curb radicalisation. It also galvanises the extremists, who perceive correctly that the society they have in their sights has no stomach for the fight.
This is precisely what is happening in Britain. Because our political and security establishment has defined extremism as involving violence, it is blind to the steady process of Islamisation that is taking place.
Astonishingly, it is tolerating — and even encouraging — the relentless incursion of Islamic religious law. Yet this is inimical to British values - and not just because it denies the human rights of women, homosexuals or anyone who wants to renounce Islam.
Fundamentally, it does not recognise the superior authority of the law of the land, against which it therefore asserts itself.
But it is a fundamental principle of a democratic society that there must be only one law for all. And yet in Britain today, blind eyes are being turned to Sharia courts meting out not just family law judgments that oppress women, but even criminal sanctions, too.
In addition, there has been in this country an enormous growth of Islamic banking — despite the fact this serves as an umbrella for the financing of Islamic terrorism and is a vehicle for putting yet more pressure on British Muslims to subject themselves to Sharia law.
Almost every week, more examples surface of the way in which British culture is giving way to Islamic practices. As a recent BBC Panorama programme demonstrated, some Muslim schools are teaching their pupils to hate ‘unbelievers’ — all under the nose of Ofsted.
And a growing number of education authorities serve halal meat to all pupils — without even informing the public of this minority faith practice. London hosts three Muslim TV channels — all with ties to fanatical Islamic organisations or regimes.
In short, Britain is being steadily Islamiscised — and the establishment appears paralysed like a rabbit caught in the headlights.
Four years ago in my book, I delivered a warning. A country that can’t even bring itself to name the nature of the enemy it faces will be defeated by that enemy.
The Stockholm bomber is but the latest export from Londonistan — and unless the Government gets up off its knees and changes its disastrous strategy, I very much fear he will not be the last.
MichelT- Date d'inscription : 06/02/2010
Re: Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
Ca ne doit pas etre évident quand meme car n'oublions pas que plusieurs hindoux sont musulmans et ils sont eux aussi originaires de l'Angleterre.Les politiciens doivent se montrer prudent car ces musulmans sont aussi anglais de naissance...
Dieu seul suffit,l'aimer,le suivre et faire sa volonté.
Re: Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
Un sondage dans les universités
32% des étudiants musulmans britanniques admettent de tuer au nom de l'islam, et 40% veulent appliquer la charia. Selon un sondage effectué dans 30 universités en Grande-Bretagne, le corps étudiant des jeunes musulmans dans ce pays est extrêmement radicalisé.
Le sondage a questionné 600 étudiants musulmans et 800 de leurs pairs non-musulmans sur des sujets politiquement délicats comme l'homicide au nom de l'islam et l'établissement de la charia, et les résultats s'avèrent radicalement différents selon ces deux catégories. Alors que presque personne dans l'échantillon des non-musulmans accepte de tuer au nom de la religion, un tiers de tous les étudiants musulmans sondés a soutenu cette "proposition".
Cette confirmation de l'extrémisme et de la violence mortelle chez les jeunes musulmans de Grande-Bretagne est aussi une indication de l'échec total de la société britannique à la fois à intégrer ainsi qu'à mieux contrôler ses communautés musulmanes. Le mot «Londonistan» souvent utilisé pour symboliser l'extrémisme islamique présent dans la capitale, parait déjà dépassé vu l'ampleur du phénomène qui touche l'ensemble du territoire.
Ce sondage terrifiant a été révélé par Wikileaks, issu d'un câble diplomatique du 6 janvier 2009 émanant de l'ambassade américaine à Londres. D'autres résultats de l'enquête sont également inquiétants. Par exemple, plus de la moitié de tous les étudiants musulmans britanniques insistent pour être représentés par un parti politique fondé sur l'islam. [...]
source: Wikileaks
32% des étudiants musulmans britanniques admettent de tuer au nom de l'islam, et 40% veulent appliquer la charia. Selon un sondage effectué dans 30 universités en Grande-Bretagne, le corps étudiant des jeunes musulmans dans ce pays est extrêmement radicalisé.
Le sondage a questionné 600 étudiants musulmans et 800 de leurs pairs non-musulmans sur des sujets politiquement délicats comme l'homicide au nom de l'islam et l'établissement de la charia, et les résultats s'avèrent radicalement différents selon ces deux catégories. Alors que presque personne dans l'échantillon des non-musulmans accepte de tuer au nom de la religion, un tiers de tous les étudiants musulmans sondés a soutenu cette "proposition".
Cette confirmation de l'extrémisme et de la violence mortelle chez les jeunes musulmans de Grande-Bretagne est aussi une indication de l'échec total de la société britannique à la fois à intégrer ainsi qu'à mieux contrôler ses communautés musulmanes. Le mot «Londonistan» souvent utilisé pour symboliser l'extrémisme islamique présent dans la capitale, parait déjà dépassé vu l'ampleur du phénomène qui touche l'ensemble du territoire.
Ce sondage terrifiant a été révélé par Wikileaks, issu d'un câble diplomatique du 6 janvier 2009 émanant de l'ambassade américaine à Londres. D'autres résultats de l'enquête sont également inquiétants. Par exemple, plus de la moitié de tous les étudiants musulmans britanniques insistent pour être représentés par un parti politique fondé sur l'islam. [...]
source: Wikileaks
MichelT- Date d'inscription : 06/02/2010
Re: Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
en angletterre il ya a aussi l english defense league,qui souhaite aussi en decoudre avec les islamistes...
mick- Date d'inscription : 31/07/2009
Localisation : sud est
Re: Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
J'ai l'impression que ,lorsque ces pays ,seront a majorité(51%)musulmane,ca commencera a devenir dangereux ....Vous en pensez quoi?MichelT a écrit:Un sondage dans les universités
32% des étudiants musulmans britanniques admettent de tuer au nom de l'islam, et 40% veulent appliquer la charia. Selon un sondage effectué dans 30 universités en Grande-Bretagne, le corps étudiant des jeunes musulmans dans ce pays est extrêmement radicalisé.
Le sondage a questionné 600 étudiants musulmans et 800 de leurs pairs non-musulmans sur des sujets politiquement délicats comme l'homicide au nom de l'islam et l'établissement de la charia, et les résultats s'avèrent radicalement différents selon ces deux catégories. Alors que presque personne dans l'échantillon des non-musulmans accepte de tuer au nom de la religion, un tiers de tous les étudiants musulmans sondés a soutenu cette "proposition".
Cette confirmation de l'extrémisme et de la violence mortelle chez les jeunes musulmans de Grande-Bretagne est aussi une indication de l'échec total de la société britannique à la fois à intégrer ainsi qu'à mieux contrôler ses communautés musulmanes. Le mot «Londonistan» souvent utilisé pour symboliser l'extrémisme islamique présent dans la capitale, parait déjà dépassé vu l'ampleur du phénomène qui touche l'ensemble du territoire.
Ce sondage terrifiant a été révélé par Wikileaks, issu d'un câble diplomatique du 6 janvier 2009 émanant de l'ambassade américaine à Londres. D'autres résultats de l'enquête sont également inquiétants. Par exemple, plus de la moitié de tous les étudiants musulmans britanniques insistent pour être représentés par un parti politique fondé sur l'islam. [...]
source: Wikileaks
Dieu seul suffit,l'aimer,le suivre et faire sa volonté.
Re: Les élites de Grande -Bretagne et leur illusions....
mais cela est deja dangeureux,car la police ne rentre plus dans certain quartier a majorite musulman,et des enfants non musulman ont deja ete agresse par des jeunes musulmans car il mangeait un sandwich pendant le ramadan!!!!!
tout les jours je vois et je discute avec des gens qui o en ont mare de cette situation!!sans parler de religion!!juste qu ils ont peur pour leurs enfants,pour leurs familles etc etc
il y a un tres tres gros probleme en france et cela ne pourra pas durer eternellement !!!! les francais sont de plus en plus agressifs,et la comunaute musulman est de plus en plus radical exemple:
beaucoup plus de barbu,de femme voile etc etc
ps: francesco tu parlais de bruxelle a 40%de musulmans mais marseille c est peut etre 50,60,voir 65% de musulman!!!
je ne sais pas se que pense les autres personnes de se forum?
tout les jours je vois et je discute avec des gens qui o en ont mare de cette situation!!sans parler de religion!!juste qu ils ont peur pour leurs enfants,pour leurs familles etc etc
il y a un tres tres gros probleme en france et cela ne pourra pas durer eternellement !!!! les francais sont de plus en plus agressifs,et la comunaute musulman est de plus en plus radical exemple:
beaucoup plus de barbu,de femme voile etc etc
ps: francesco tu parlais de bruxelle a 40%de musulmans mais marseille c est peut etre 50,60,voir 65% de musulman!!!
je ne sais pas se que pense les autres personnes de se forum?
mick- Date d'inscription : 31/07/2009
Localisation : sud est
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